tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post4518998667732830791..comments2024-03-28T00:53:56.209-07:00Comments on Because We Watch Too Much TV: Limitless movie thoughtsErn and Leeardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02222918254913939721noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-65596064007340711452013-04-29T13:35:49.751-07:002013-04-29T13:35:49.751-07:00Every monster has a noble idea and good intentions...Every monster has a noble idea and good intentionsErn and Leeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02222918254913939721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-69767599553301203022013-04-29T09:24:03.127-07:002013-04-29T09:24:03.127-07:00I didn't see him as serving himself or being o...I didn't see him as serving himself or being on an ego trip. I believe that he decided to make lots of money because it was necessary, in order for him to reach a position where he could effect an overall global change. As he said "get things done in the world" What better way to get things done than to be a senator or president armed with intelligence and knowledge to persuade the most social and economical persuaders in the world. I believe he had a noble idea or vision that he was striving for. Along the way, he gets distracted by great things that money can bring and protecting himself from the tycoon's hitman and the shady Eastern European and his mob.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18259473421576369098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-54889704828839134602013-04-29T09:12:34.813-07:002013-04-29T09:12:34.813-07:00I believe everyone is missing the whole point of h...I believe everyone is missing the whole point of him making the money. He had an idea that went on evolving and in order to achieve that idea he needed to make money. Along the way, he gets side tracked by all the great things that money brings and of course protecting himself from the Eastern Europeans and the tycoon's hitman. He wanted to "get things done in the world" How can you make the biggest impact across the globe? One way is becoming a senator or president. I didn't see it as an ego trip or the search for fame, but for a bigger better vision of humanity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18259473421576369098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-74633316624060411662012-09-12T20:44:33.915-07:002012-09-12T20:44:33.915-07:00This is what i understood from this movie. We all ...This is what i understood from this movie. We all complain that all the powerful people are selfish and got to be powerful by doing bad things.Mostly politicians, we all think that most of them suck and that they are screwing us over and stealing our tax money(at least that is what i think of the ones in my country). <br /><br />BUT what if we got to be in their place, what if we got a pill that made us super smart and powerful, would we be as selfish as the ones we complain about or would we be different? according to the movie we would be as selfish an ambitious as all of them. And, that we would not get punished for being selfish and committing crimes, because in real life that rarely happens to powerful people anywayslis cameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12933087697566587913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-59564153207931211342012-09-12T20:42:41.786-07:002012-09-12T20:42:41.786-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.lis cameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12933087697566587913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-80143420888736852162012-08-04T02:11:03.746-07:002012-08-04T02:11:03.746-07:00I know this was ages ago but I just caught this fi...I know this was ages ago but I just caught this film last night and stumbled on the blog. I notice at several points in the discussion people say he got away with murder - he didn't murder the girl. The guy who had been following him and working for the tycoon who was contemplating a merger with Eddie's boss did it, so that Eddie would need to use the high-powered lawyer and they could discover if Eddie was on NZT and then get it back. Their plan works except that the lawyer keeps the NZT and the merger tycoon guy dies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-21088877766136847742012-06-02T00:06:57.558-07:002012-06-02T00:06:57.558-07:00There is another interesting reason to believe tha...There is another interesting reason to believe that he went into politics for good......he originally wanted to write a book (which he eventually did) about a utopian society....so I think he wanted the money to a) change himself and be limitless all the time and b)change society as well. It seems he is about to win the senate race so he is obviously proposing a lot of great changes for people to want to vote for him. If he really was a villan he would be fine pushing through the pharma's plans at the end.<br /><br />I do think he is feeling the affects at the end and his girlfriend is as well..... They are too bright-eyed not to be but its def. unseen whether they are on it still but my gut says he had the drug altered so the effects were permanent but he isnt on it anymore.<br /><br />The biggest issue with the film besides its gaps in story at times, is that it really leaves the drug world a bit idealized in the minds of the viewers which I dont think we need at all in the collective consciousness. It would be best if we see movies of more underdogs achieving great things through their own will power to perservere. However, it is interesting to note that most amazing things are achieved through altered states of consciousness but we dont need drugs to get there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-67666221021782695742012-04-04T17:05:30.674-07:002012-04-04T17:05:30.674-07:00^ (cont.)and to answer the question of why he stil...^ (cont.)and to answer the question of why he still needs a lab in the end- I think it was a hoax- because when DiNero says that he shut down his lab- He does a believable smile- Hey I mean, he's a year while being the smartest man alive- using 100% of your brain heightening up each sense and making you have a super brain- i'm sure your capable of doing thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-71716406840754194332012-04-04T16:45:54.927-07:002012-04-04T16:45:54.927-07:00I don't know much about everyone's thought...I don't know much about everyone's thoughts about the end, although that's probably what was intended by the director. I could be wrong.<br /><br />But the ending came clear to me really- this is what i got.<br /><br />He did quote that he will get off the pill and that he will be together with her clean off it- Yes- i believe he is off it and did get a permanent version- hence his demonstration with the truck taxi cab accident and by finding out the poor state DiNero's heart is in. <br /><br />secondly- At the end he met up with lindy, and I really think lying to her would be seriously stupid since he lied to her before.<br /><br />Another analogy of mine was lindy (his girlfriend) took the pill once before, and i'm sure after you take one pill and stop you would die- but in the end he's alive. Knowing that his girlfriend is in trouble would also give him the intention of finding a way to permanently be in "smart mode" since that's the only way they both can survive.<br /><br />and in the end-<br /><br />him and the asian man just had a little joke saying - he wanted some pancakes and a lobster with no Msg-<br /><br />The waiter replied but it will keep you warm (because Msg in mandarin sounds like Scarf because of their different pronounciations)<br /><br />He then ends off- not if my hands are clean ( as he gestures his hands out)<br /><br />His girlfriend didn't look confused to me in the end- as she rolls off her eyes in a way that gave me the intention that he understood him and was laughing with him in a sarcastic manner.<br />How does she understand? - also clears up my evidence that they are both in permanent "smart mode" and she also learned mandarin and possible more other languages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-63020259976252660682012-04-04T00:48:35.226-07:002012-04-04T00:48:35.226-07:00Everything has been discussed make up your minds h...Everything has been discussed make up your minds however you will.<br /><br />But consider this tidbit of information everyone missed.<br /><br />Perhaps him speaking in Chinese at the end was him simply FLAUNTING his abilities to his girlfriend, both of them knowing he is off it while still having permanent effects somehow.<br /><br />If you rewatch it, as I have, watch the scene again. It DOES look as if she's annoyed but that's only because that is what the viewer expects. Mind is tricky that way. If you watch it again, just watch her face. It actually does not look annoyed. Just... quizzical. I think he was flaunting and she was not amused.<br /><br />I think he had permanent effects and she knew, and was okay with it.Eamonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12159940407050524796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-17132709686563616592012-02-21T09:45:25.174-08:002012-02-21T09:45:25.174-08:00I liked this movie. Instead of Disney morality, we...I liked this movie. Instead of Disney morality, we get real-world dealings with complex issues, and modern commentary on the notion of success. The thing that blew my mind the most was when Eddie was talking to his ex-wife, and she said the reason she stopped taking the drug was because "you can't be this good forever," which ironically led to her illness post-quitting. Why can't you be "good forever"? I guarantee the ones at the top are not afraid of their eventual downfall, just as a surfer isn't afraid of the end of the ride.<br /><br />Disbelief, fear, and frighteningly, emotions, seem to be the things impeding everyone in the movie, which the drug conveniently erases. If you were aware of (or believed in) how intelligent you could be, and were able to use that intelligence without any guilt, shame, or concern for the welfare of others, you would get ahead in the world. Basically, the drug turns them into sociopaths, which is eerie to watch, but not unrealistic in terms of success. The only question is, do we root for a sociopath? Like I said, it was refreshing to see something besides the usual "protagonist = morality vessel" formula for a movie like this.<br /><br />Thanks for the review. As a female carbon copy of Eddie's original self, the movie left me emotionally confused, but inspired.Jennaferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12500896089709882480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-67207216413085878422012-02-04T16:44:18.644-08:002012-02-04T16:44:18.644-08:00Ya'll should watch "Primer" and argu...Ya'll should watch "Primer" and argue about that.Ern and Leeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02222918254913939721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-4251793269668149192012-02-04T14:30:37.017-08:002012-02-04T14:30:37.017-08:00I would like to point out that Eddie tells the res...I would like to point out that Eddie tells the researcher to make a copy in the drug in only 6 months (for 2 million). At the ending a screen tells us that it is '12 months later'. This suggests that the pill has already been made before Robert DeNiro’s character meets Eddie again. Which supports the idea that Eddie is still on the drug (but is still ambiguous about is the drug's side-effects have been removed).<br />The only evidence against this is that Robert DeNiro’s character claims to have destroyed Eddie's lab; but this could again be a different lab maybe perfecting the drug, or just a hoax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-25558708177138789132012-01-12T08:33:01.014-08:002012-01-12T08:33:01.014-08:00what about the hands in the safe? makes no sense. ...what about the hands in the safe? makes no sense. You are all concentrating on the wrong issue here!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-7610938108713143762012-01-02T06:27:12.191-08:002012-01-02T06:27:12.191-08:00For the comment that the ending was "too happ...For the comment that the ending was "too happy": The pill is "too perfect" and lets you solve any problem. If you have the capability to solve any problem, all of your endings will be "too happy." Just my thoughts, he got his life back by figuring out the way to no longer take the drug but retain all of the information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-7402835359921541412011-12-18T22:33:55.480-08:002011-12-18T22:33:55.480-08:00he is definitely planning to do good, he said wall...he is definitely planning to do good, he said wall street will be his nest egg, the dudes got a plan in the works and knows the necessary move to get things done. the ending isn't ambiguous its comedic, has no reason to lie, says hes off of it and has retained some of it's benefitsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-9245526647928616212011-12-14T18:18:41.382-08:002011-12-14T18:18:41.382-08:00So I just saw this movie. The reason he begins his...So I just saw this movie. The reason he begins his political career is to do some good for the world, not just gain more power. He mentions the idea earlier in the movie. I don't remember what part 'cause I watched it in like 4 sittings on Netflix. lol.....over all I found it to be very well done. Both entertaining and very thought provoking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-33316959456014049802011-11-03T20:55:28.516-07:002011-11-03T20:55:28.516-07:00Wow, i just read the review and the blog and i got...Wow, i just read the review and the blog and i gotta say wow. All these comments and no one seems to notice the obvious. This is a propoganda film, complete with messaging that money, power, and drugs are all anyone needs to be successful (sound like any one else you've seen)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-38302433287913700552011-10-28T18:16:17.796-07:002011-10-28T18:16:17.796-07:00Just watched the film and the alternate ending.
...Just watched the film and the alternate ending. <br /><br><br />In the alternate ending he is definitley on the drug and the ambiguity was if he really would /could give it up. Which was ok but I prefer the ending they went with because of all it's ambiguity.<br /><br><br />It did feel as if he was scheming / lying his way out of DeNiro's trap a great double twist ending, and with ordering in Chinese adding another twist. That's what makes the ending so enjoyable keeps pulling the rug from under your feet.<br /><br />My 10 pence: if he still had a lab running and if he was planning to go all the way to president then he was still on the drug and lying to his girlfriend that he wasn't.Deebeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-54581599833456973352011-10-17T15:05:23.656-07:002011-10-17T15:05:23.656-07:00Here is a link to a site that talks about what he ...Here is a link to a site that talks about what he was saying at the end in the Chinese restaurant: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110321005500AAtJeJJ<br /><br />(not helpful to explain the ending, but folks were asking)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-34334317373816051832011-10-04T21:31:28.904-07:002011-10-04T21:31:28.904-07:00'At the end he said that he perfected the drug...'At the end he said that he perfected the drug and he tappered off. Then he and von loon go back and fourth and then Eddie says I maybe off it but you think that I haven't learned anything that my synapses has changed. If you remember his exwife told him earlier in the movie not to quit cold turkey to tapper off. When he perfected nzt I think it left a lasting effect on him. My question is of was off the pill why did he still have a lab? Was he selling it? Also it would've cool if his wife/girlfriend would've spoke in Chinese at the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-82485322090878250622011-10-03T13:05:08.579-07:002011-10-03T13:05:08.579-07:00My husband works for big pharma and we both though...My husband works for big pharma and we both thought a great ending would have been that nzt was only a sugar pill ( placebo) the brain is capable of many great things as long as you believe! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-28461375000429144072011-09-11T10:11:53.386-07:002011-09-11T10:11:53.386-07:00Definitely ambiguous ending... My wife thinks that...Definitely ambiguous ending... My wife thinks that his intention was to use the drug for good. That his experiences with it were not as self centered as they seem. I disagree, I think that he used the drug selfishly (making suits that had hidden pockets for the pills, always trying to hide things from everyone - except he couldn't hide it from his girlfriend)... I think his ultimate goal is to become president - doesn't (almost) every presidential candidate come from the ranks of senators and/or governors? There is definitely a meteoric rise to power story here. Was he still on the drug or did he perfect it? Hmm... good question. He did survive it and was still in control (his ex-wife was off the pill, but a mess!). <br />Another good question is what the police do with all the deaths that keep happening around him.<br />Sequel!!!!!!!! Please!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-65602598116631725092011-09-08T11:17:34.471-07:002011-09-08T11:17:34.471-07:00I think the ending is meant to be ambiguous. These...I think the ending is meant to be ambiguous. These are fictional characters, after all, so there is no one "true" meaning at the end. But to me it certainly suggested that he was still on the drug. <br />Having said that, there were all kinds of holes in the story and things that just didn't make sense. I'm not going to bother to list them here and now but the point is, you shouldn't think too much about this one. If you do, you'll only realize how in so many ways it just doesn't add up. Just take it as a fun story with a deliberately ambiguous ending.Pizza Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10280665603124117834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-228678769273144852.post-78480632238411859942011-08-23T08:36:42.835-07:002011-08-23T08:36:42.835-07:00So I have a thought about the last few scenes:
In...So I have a thought about the last few scenes:<br /><br />In Eddie's conversation with DeNiro's character, he predicts the car wreck between the van and the taxi, and he says something like, "I'm 50 moves ahead of you and everybody else."<br /><br />I think Eddie is still on the drug, and that he hasn't even necessarily had it engineered into a safer version. When he and DeNiro are in his office and DeNiro says "we closed your lab this morning," you can see Eddie's face get that scheming, "I've got you right where I want you" look. He's got his story all worked out. He doesn't have to be off the drug; he just has to have a convincing enough story to keep DeNiro in check. <br /><br />Here's what I think: the writers (and maybe Eddie-as-narrator) are having some fun with us. Eddie tells DeNiro the car crash will happen, and it does. I think he also "tells" us how the movie ends, and we swallow it. When he says, "I'm 50 steps ahead of you and everybody else," he's also talking to us, the audience. He puts this whole buffet of possibilities out there for us, some of which might be true-- that he has "2 or 3 or 4 more labs," that he's "off it but learned something," that his "synapses have changed,"-- but I think all he has really done is realize that, with NZT, he's SO much smarter than everyone else, he realizes that he can basically spin an air-tight convincing story for everyone else (including Lindy and DeNiro and millions of voters), basically creating the reality he lives in by so convincingly controlling people's perceptions of him. I mean come on: he's a politician :-) <br /><br />Seems to me that he's still on the same old pill, but is only truly "limitless" (in guile, power, ability to control people, especially the audience etc.) at the very end of the movie. Let's not forget that it's Eddie who is telling us this story all along; he can-- and probably has been-- spinning it how ever he wants. He's nothing if not a narcissist.<br /><br />Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com